Peyote In Labor, Feminism, and Running Away From the Army — 068

Jul 30

In today’s episode, we speak with three extraordinary women who are dedicating their lives to the service of others. All three are birth workers who embrace respecting a woman’s cultural heritage and traditions. They candidly share their personal journeys and the wisdom they have cultivated over their many years of service.

T’Karima believes that birth is a ceremony. She is an Indigenous woman with Mexica roots. She is researching a highly controversial topic -using peyote during pregnancy and labor. She gave birth to her three sons in the sweat lodge, like many Indigenous peoples throughout the Americas have throughout history.

Missy is a certified nurse midwife who serves all people. She is an advocate of human rights and for the LGBTQ+ community. She is working to implement an IUI (Intrauterine Insemination) program within her practice.

Mary Rose is a nurse/midwife who left the Army at 18 when she became pregnant after being raped. She gave birth to her son at The Farm in Tennessee. She stayed at the Farm for four years as a midwife assistant apprentice and she now serves Navajo women on a reservation.

We sat with these women and heard their powerful stories and now share their power with you.

*This episode was recorded live from our Motherbirth booth at the American College of Nurse-Midwives Annual Conference.

In This Episode:

  • The importance of respecting cultural heritage and customs

  • Supporting a mother’s choice of birth environment and method

  • Giving birth in a sweat lodge

  • Using medicinal plants during pregnancy and childbirth

  • Midwife care for LGBTQ+ communities

  • Implementing a IUI (Intrauterine Insemination) program

  • What midwives can do next

  • Identifying with multiple cultures

  • The importance of language while serving all people

  • Running away from the army after being raped and having no recourse

  • Finding a safe place on The Farm to give birth and heal

  • Setting a foundation of love and peace for children

  • Using crowdfunding to save for future college expenses

Show Notes:

American College of Nurse-Midwives Annual Conference

T’Karima Ticitl on Facebook

West Suburban Midwife Associates

La Clinica De Familia

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About Our Guests:

T’Karima Ticitl, PhD, student midwife, birth and postpartum doula, placenta encapsulator, is Indigenous (Mexica/Wirrarika) and Xicana. She was born in California and has been living on the East Coast since 2005. Her family is from Zacatecas and Jalisco, Mexico. She is the mother of three boys, all who were born at home in the temazkal (sweat lodge). She is also a midwife assistant, artisan, activist, author, and scholar. She is the co-founder and co-director of Traditional Doula Arts. She is the author of Decolonizing Nahua/Mexica/Aztec Children’s Literature, Blooming Flower, Shooting Star, and Boys Can Have Long Hair, Too. Currently, she is studying to be a midwife at SUNY Downstate Medical Center.


Missy Furlette-Koski is currently practicing as a CNM at West Suburban Midwife Associates in Oak Park, IL, which is one of the only midwife-owned and midwife-led practices in Illinois. She is involved in feminist activism in Chicago and is a passionate advocate for reproductive justice and autonomous decision making in health care. She was born and raised in Ann Arbor, MI (Go Blue!), and moved to Chicago to attend DePaul University where she earned her Bachelor of Arts in Women & Gender Studies in 2005. While at DePaul, Missy completed an undergraduate thesis on queer parenthood and continues to be engaged in creating space in the reproductive health care system for LGBTQ families. In spring 2017, she graduated from the University of Illinois at Chicago with her master’s degree in Nurse Midwifery. Before becoming a midwife, Missy practiced as both a birth and postpartum doula in Michigan and Chicago, and apprenticed in a home birth practice. She also had the opportunity to study in Stockholm, Sweden at the Karolinska Institute during midwifery school, and is interested in expanding access to midwifery care in the United States. Missy and her wife, Sara, have lived in Oak Park since 2013. Missy is a very dedicated yogi and enjoys cooking, reading, hanging out with her dog Hugo, and mastering inversions and arm balances in her spare time.

Mary Rose Korduner is a child of the sixties. She wanted to be a nurse like her mom, not a doc like her dad.  While still in high school, she joined the army – to become a nurse and to try to convince them (the army) killing people is wrong!  As just 17, she found herself in Basic training and quickly learned a lot about life. In order to get out (with an honorable discharge), she became pregnant. When she found she was no longer welcome at home in California and following a 1977 Spiritual Communities Guide, she  was welcomed at The Farm and became a Mother- taken in by strangers who showed her love as no-one in my life ever had. Mary Rose now resides on the border of New Mexico and Mexico and gives the same love and kindness she received back to the women that come to her for their births and women care.

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